‍ ‍I first began learning hypnosis in 1978 with Captain Rainey at St. Martin College in Lacey, Washington. Captain Rainey had been an instructor at the Washington State Criminal Justice Training Academy. Captain Rainey had been the State Forensic Hypnotist. I practiced hypnosis and have helped fellow firefighters with weight, motivation and sleeping better on the station beds. Once I retired from the fire service, I began to help friends and neighbors with an array of problems.

I completed my formal training in Spokane, Washington with Judy Ward and became certified as hypnotist, after completing the certification course, American Council of Hypnotist Examiners. ACHE.

I have studied with Mike Mandell Hypnosis Academy, (MMHA) Karl Smith of the UK Hypnosis Academy and Marc C. Anthony, Stage Hypnosis Academy. I continued to expand my knowledge through continuous training and seminars.